Tuesday, October 18, 2016

New Survey Shows A Lot Of Millennials Like Socialism, Think Bush Killed More People Then Stalin?

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  • Mao: 40 million
  • Stalin: 20 million
  • Hitler: 12 million
  • Leopold II: 10 million
  • Tojo: 5 million
the minds of 80 percent of baby boomers and 91 percent of elderly Americans, communism was a major problem in years past and remains a significant concern today. But millennials, aged 16 to 20 years, see it differently. Only 55 percent of the younger generation take issue with communism, 45 percent say they would vote for a socialist and 21 percent say they’d vote for a communist.
And millennials made all that clear during the Democratic presidential primary, when many of them cast their vote for Vermont Sen. Bernie Sanders, a self-avowed socialist. In fact, the report credits the New England lawmaker with a “bounce” that led to less than half of millennials — 42 percent — having a favorable view of capitalism.
By contrast, 64 percent of Americans aged 65 and older hold a favorable view of the capitalist structure.
In addition to the dramatic turn in political ideology, the study revealed an alarming lack of historical knowledge among millennials — a realization that might be impacting their political leanings.
According to the report, 32 percent — one-third — of millennials believe more people were killed under Bush’s presidency than Soviet dictator Joseph Stalin. The study also finds that a majority of respondents “grossly underestimated” the number of deaths associated with communism.


Dictators are, as you might imagine, not keen to record how many people they are killing.So it is tricky to establish exactly how many people died as a result of Stalin’s policies.
Estimates of the death toll vary widely, from 3.5-8 million (G Ponton) at the low end to 60 million (A Solzhenitsyn).
Today, most historians seem to have settled on a total of about 20 million.
According to John Heidenrich, in his book “How to Prevent Genocide: A Guide for Policymakers, Scholars, and the Concerned Citizen” the death toll can be divided into three broad groups:
  • Kulaks and forced collectivisation: 7 million
  • Gulags: 12 million
  • Purges: 1.2 million
Robert Conquest, in his book The Great Terror: A Reassessment, divides the figure another way:
  •  1930-36: 7 million
  • 1937-38: 3 million
  • 1939-53: 10 million
The number of deaths in the Soviet Union that were explicitly ordered by someone – in other words, the number of executions – is actually relatively low at around 1.5 million.
The majority of the deaths were caused by neglect or repressive policies – for example, those who died in the Soviet gulags, those who died while being deported, and the German civilians and Prisoners of War are believed to have perished while under Soviet guard.
Some historians argue that victims of famines should be counted as victims of Stalin. However because they were, if not the direct result of Stalin’s policies, at the very least exacerbated by Stalin’s policies, there is a very strong counter-argument to say that they should be included. Most historians do include the victims of famine in any counts.


Despite the horrific death toll listed above, Stalin doesn’t hold the distinction of being the most genocidal leader of the 20th century.
  • Mao: 40 million
  • Stalin: 20 million
  • Hitler: 12 million
  • Leopold II: 10 million
  • Tojo: 5 million
In absolute terms, Mao Zedong of China is thought to be responsible for the deaths of 40-75 million Chinese (admittedly from a much larger initial population base). Again, most of these deaths are attributable to famine, and political decisions such as the Great Leap Forward which, alone, is estimated to have a death toll of 18-45 million.
Based on the estimates above of 20 million deaths, Stalin would come second in the list of dictators who killed the most people.
Adolf Hitler, of Germany, is probably responsible for 10-20 million deaths. Timothy Snyder settles on a total of 12 million including the deliberate murder of 5.4 million Jews. (This of course, doesn’t count the 40 million civilians and soldiers who died in the Second World War itself)If you add in the casualties from the Second World War, though, which was caused by Hitler, this rises by 42 million to 50-60 million, which would the number of deaths caused by Hitler comparable in scale to those caused by Mao.
Fourth on the list of the twentieth century’s mass murderers is a surprising entry – King Leopold II. The ‘Butcher of Belgium’ oversaw a vicious colonial regime in Congo which killed an estimated 10 million people.
Rounding out the top five is Hideki Tojo, the Prime Minister of Japan during the second world war. An estimated 5 million civilians were killed throughout China and the Asia Pacific during his rule.

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